{"id":1605,"date":"2016-05-22T11:35:48","date_gmt":"2016-05-22T11:35:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/?p=1605"},"modified":"2016-05-14T04:43:38","modified_gmt":"2016-05-14T04:43:38","slug":"picard-is-truth-more-lawful-or-good","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/05\/22\/picard-is-truth-more-lawful-or-good\/","title":{"rendered":"Picard: Is Truth More Lawful or Good?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, I was reading <a href=\"http:\/\/www.giantitp.com\/forums\/showthread.php?252509-Alignment-Examples\" target=\"_blank\">some internet forums<\/a> associated with one of my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.giantitp.com\/Comics.html\" target=\"_blank\">favourite webcomics<\/a>, and an argument came up about Captain Picard&#8217;s &#8216;alignment&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.giantitp.com\/forums\/showsinglepost.php?p=13715581&#038;postcount=13\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;That&#8217;s a really good one. (Although I don&#8217;t watch enough star trek to recognize the LN guy)It&#8217;s Captain Picard. You could make a case for him being Lawful Good, just not that friendly, but LN suits him just as well.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>(A brief aside.  &#8216;Alignment&#8217; in this context is from Dungeons &#038; Dragons, where each character is considered to be aligned along two axes, &#8216;lawful-neutral-chaotic&#8217; (respect for the rule of law) and &#8216;good-neutral-evil&#8217; (good of the many vs. good of the few).  This gives 9 &#8216;alignments&#8217;, from &#8216;lawful-good&#8217; to &#8216;chaotic-evil.)<\/p>\n<p>Some had him as &#8216;lawful-good&#8217;, or trying to do the best for the many while respecting laws.  some had him as &#8216;lawful-neutral&#8217;, where adherence to laws is more important than the good of the many.  I can see the &#8216;lawful-neutral&#8217; interpretation, just from listening to one of his quotes:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/memory-alpha.wikia.com\/wiki\/Prime_Directive#Prohibitions\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;The Prime Directive is not just a set of rules; it is a philosophy&#8230; and a very correct one. History has proven again and again that whenever mankind interferes with a less developed civilization, no matter how well intentioned that interference may be, the results are invariably disastrous.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It seems at first blush that here the law (the Prime Directive) is more important than any group of pre-warp civilizations[1].<\/p>\n<p>Another famous quote:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/memory-alpha.wikia.com\/wiki\/The_First_Duty_%28episode%29#Memorable_quotes\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it&#8217;s scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can&#8217;t find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don&#8217;t deserve to wear that uniform.&#8221;<\/a>[2]<\/p>\n<p>So we have two questions here:<\/p>\n<p>1) Is adherence to the Prime Directive more &#8216;lawful&#8217; or &#8216;good&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p>2) Is Truth more &#8216;lawful&#8217; or &#8216;good&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p>1) The Prime Directive ostensibly has the interests of the many (the inhabitants of a pre-warp planet) outweighing the interests of the few (those few people who would exploit them).<\/p>\n<p>And indeed, when the Prime Directive does not have their best interests in mind, Picard tends to look for <a href=\"http:\/\/memory-alpha.wikia.com\/wiki\/Prime_Directive#Exceptions\" target=\"_blank\">exceptions<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Although there are <a href=\"http:\/\/memory-alpha.wikia.com\/wiki\/Homeward_%28episode%29\" target=\"_blank\">times when he seems perfectly willing to let a planet&#8217;s culture perish to avoid interference<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So, I would count this as the Prime Directive is a &#8216;law&#8217; that is mostly &#8216;good&#8217;, and Picard usually tries to move it towards &#8216;good&#8217; when there is wiggle room.  At the same time, when the &#8216;law&#8217; conflicts with the &#8216;good&#8217;, sometimes (but seldom) he chooses &#8216;law&#8217;, so &#8216;lawful-good&#8217; seems appropriate.<\/p>\n<p>2) Now, let&#8217;s look at truth.  Another quote seems to be in order here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/quotes\/77244-journalism-is-printing-what-someone-else-does-not-want-printed\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.&#8221;<\/a>[3]<\/p>\n<p>This would suggest that barring violating the Prime Directive above, truth should be &#8216;good&#8217;, specifically the speaking of truth to power.  (I think that&#8217;s what actually necessitates the Prime Directive, else if truth was pre-eminent, interference to tell people the error of their ways would be a very convenient excuse.)<\/p>\n<p>So, truth is probably &#8216;good&#8217;.  Is it &#8216;lawful&#8217;?  You could make the argument that adherence to truth is equivalent to a code of honour[4], and it&#8217;s just as important (or more important) to do things the right way as to reach your objective.  So, truth can be either or both of &#8216;lawful&#8217; and &#8216;good&#8217;.  The quote above from &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/memory-alpha.wikia.com\/wiki\/The_First_Duty_%28episode%29#Memorable_quotes\" target=\"_blank\">The First Duty<\/a>&#8216; is speaking about the good of the many (Starfleet, the reputation of his dead friend, and the trust between Starfleet officers) outweighs the good of the few (Wesley&#8217;s year of school, his reputation), so I&#8217;d call this a meeting of &#8216;lawful&#8217; and &#8216;good&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d say Picard is pretty firmly &#8216;lawful-good&#8217;, with some &#8216;neutral-good&#8217; leanings (bending the rules to help people) and some &#8216;lawful-neutral&#8217; leanings (sometime rules are absolute).<\/p>\n<p>Thoughts?  Comment below!<\/p>\n<p>[1]Leaving out the <a href=\"http:\/\/memory-alpha.wikia.com\/wiki\/Redemption_%28episode%29#Act_Five\" target=\"_blank\">non-interference in the Klingon civil war<\/a> as out of scope.<\/p>\n<p>[2]That <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo\" target=\"_blank\">quote also appears here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>[3]<a href=\"http:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2013\/01\/20\/news-suppress\/\" target=\"_blank\">Note that George Orwell is most frequently associated with this quote, as is William Randolph Hearst.  The actual source seems unclear<\/a>.  I enjoyed a number of the humorous takes on the quote in that article.<\/p>\n<p>[4]No, not the episode.  And I&#8217;m not linking to it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, I was reading some internet forums associated with one of my favourite webcomics, and an argument came up about Captain Picard&#8217;s &#8216;alignment&#8217;. &#8220;That&#8217;s a really good one. (Although I don&#8217;t watch enough star trek to recognize the LN guy)It&#8217;s Captain Picard. You could make a case for him being Lawful Good, just not that &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/05\/22\/picard-is-truth-more-lawful-or-good\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Picard: Is Truth More Lawful or Good?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[21,17,7,29,4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1605"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1605"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1605\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1741,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1605\/revisions\/1741"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1605"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1605"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1605"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}