{"id":1492,"date":"2016-04-20T11:33:53","date_gmt":"2016-04-20T11:33:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/?p=1492"},"modified":"2016-04-20T03:30:13","modified_gmt":"2016-04-20T03:30:13","slug":"the-line-between-art","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/04\/20\/the-line-between-art\/","title":{"rendered":"The Line Between Art"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, we were talking about <a href=\"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/04\/19\/the-line-between-art-and-making\/\" target=\"_blank\">the line between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Making&#8217;<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Over lunch today, I was talking with A &#038; D, and they raised a couple of (unrelated) questions[1].<\/p>\n<p>1. Yesterday, we had talked about the line between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Making&#8217;.  But what about the line between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Destruction&#8217;?  Auto-destructive art a reasonably recent example[2], but think about sculpture.  In general, sculptures made from stone are just very (sometimes very very) finely controlled destruction.<\/p>\n<p>Is it the intentionality?  You could write an essay about the meaning of it, then hit a cube of concrete once with a sledgehammer and call it art.  In the right context, that could be very provocative.  So, where&#8217;s the line?  Is it someone trying to make &#8216;Art&#8217;?  Is it someone trying to create an emotional response?  Because I would argue there are plenty of people who have destroyed things to create an emotional response[3], but that is not art.  Is it destruction with the intent to help someone by creating an emotional response?  Destroying a prized but hurtful possession can be helpful, but I would argue it is not art.  So where&#8217;s the line?<\/p>\n<p>2. On a more minor note, they also mentioned the line between graffiti and art.  I would argue that a simple tag (especially tagging a mural) is not art.  Often, it is vandalism.  But when you draw an entire mural of your tag, with shading and curlicues, I would argue that that is art.  It may be &#8216;pop-art&#8217;, it is likely still vandalism, but is still art.<\/p>\n<p>So, where is the line here?  Is it percentage art vs. percentage vandalism?  Is it intentionality?  Is it the amount of time spent?  In the words of the immortal Duke Nukem, &#8216;Where is it?&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>[1]I always really enjoy hanging out with sysadmins, and people who have been sysadmins in a previous life.  They are endlessly fascinated by people and their <a href=\"http:\/\/thenextweb.com\/insider\/2015\/09\/07\/this-hilarious-cisco-fail-is-a-network-engineers-worst-nightmare\/\" target=\"_blank\">design (or lack thereof) of complex systems<\/a>.  C<a href=\"http:\/\/thedailywtf.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">omplex systems which inevitably try to fly apart at the slightest provocation<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>[2]And the first thing to appear when I searched for &#8216;destructive art&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>[3]I will not enumerate these here.  This falls under the category of &#8216;memes I will not spread&#8217;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, we were talking about the line between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Making&#8217;. Over lunch today, I was talking with A &#038; D, and they raised a couple of (unrelated) questions[1]. 1. Yesterday, we had talked about the line between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Making&#8217;. But what about the line between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Destruction&#8217;? Auto-destructive art a reasonably recent &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/04\/20\/the-line-between-art\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The Line Between Art<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[17,7,4,36],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1492"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1492"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1492\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1495,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1492\/revisions\/1495"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1492"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1492"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1492"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}