{"id":1488,"date":"2016-04-19T11:10:33","date_gmt":"2016-04-19T11:10:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/?p=1488"},"modified":"2016-04-19T02:06:54","modified_gmt":"2016-04-19T02:06:54","slug":"the-line-between-art-and-making","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/04\/19\/the-line-between-art-and-making\/","title":{"rendered":"The Line Between Art and Making"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Note: I am part of the Site 3 Fire Arts collective (S3FA), but I am speaking for myself, not them\/us.<\/p>\n<p>Some friends of mine went to FITC earlier today, &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/fitc.ca\/event\/to16\/\" target=\"_blank\">a three-day professional celebration of the best the world has to offer in design, web development, media and innovation in creative technologies.<\/a>&#8216;[1]<\/p>\n<p>To me, reading <a href=\"http:\/\/fitc.ca\/event\/to16\/presentations\/\" target=\"_blank\">the list of presentations<\/a>, it feels like a software\/design\/digital\/&#8217;creatives&#8217; conference, and I&#8217;d always heard good things about it.<\/p>\n<p>One of the presentations earlier today was about &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/fitc.ca\/presentation\/future-arcades\/\" target=\"_blank\">Future Arcades<\/a>&#8216;, about how arcades and interactive installations can learn from each other.  They even showed pictures of <a href=\"http:\/\/site3firearts.ca\/\" target=\"_blank\">S3FA&#8217;s Riskee Ball<\/a>!  Yay!  (Although, there was no attribution[2].  Boo!)<\/p>\n<p>This naturally sparked a discussion about attribution, and how important it is.  Whether people should be happy that their art\/installation\/etc is getting out there, or should be insisting on attribution and making sure people do so.<\/p>\n<p>For S and I, this sparked a conversation about the line between &#8216;Making&#8217; and &#8216;Art&#8217;.  Is the attribution requirement different?  Even if you&#8217;re <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Feist_Publications,_Inc.,_v._Rural_Telephone_Service_Co.\" target=\"_blank\">copying the phone book<\/a>, it feels polite to credit <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants\" target=\"_blank\">those whose shoulders you&#8217;re standing on<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Moving back to the title of this post, the more interesting[3] (for me) conversation was about the placement of the line between &#8216;Making&#8217; and &#8216;Art'[4].  S mentioned that while we were designing and building Mirror Blaze, she always thought of it as a &#8216;Fire Installation&#8217; more than &#8216;Art&#8217;.  I had always referred to the group as &#8216;a fire art collective&#8217;, at which point most people asked if we <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fire_performance\" target=\"_blank\">spun poi<\/a>.  Some people in the group say that we build &#8216;Big Dumb Fire Art&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>So, how do you reconcile these views?  I&#8217;ve always like the &#8220;I don&#8217;t know art, but I know what I like&#8221; statement, that like many things, you&#8217;ll know it when you see it.  A common theme seems to be that there needs to be significant personal time and work invested by the artist(s) involved[5].  S suggests that intention of &#8216;Emotional Impact&#8217; is what makes something &#8216;Art&#8217; for her.  (I&#8217;m the kind of person that takes great enjoyment in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Pareidolia\" target=\"_blank\">finding faces in everyday objects<\/a>[6], so I guess that&#8217;s where the intentionality comes in.)<\/p>\n<p>We also briefly touched on the line[7] between &#8216;Art&#8217; and &#8216;Illustration&#8217;, but agreed that &#8217;emotional intentionality&#8217; also applied.<\/p>\n<p>Comments?  Questions?  Rotten tomatoes?  Comment below!<\/p>\n<p>A note about &#8216;Art&#8217; vs. &#8216;art&#8217;.  I use the term &#8216;Art&#8217; to refer to &#8216;what people generally think art is&#8217;, with all the associated baggage and politics that comes along with social pressures and millennia of history.  Personally, I see art as whatever someone calls art, because at that point, they&#8217;re asking you to think and\/or feel about the definition of art, if nothing else.  I think there are also a number of things not described as art that qualify, but that&#8217;s another post.<\/p>\n<p>[1]It always feels better to use peoples&#8217; own &#8216;about&#8217; statements.<\/p>\n<p>[2]Maybe it&#8217;s my background in academia, where attribution is everything.  Maybe it&#8217;s the fact that I seem to be good at Google, so it seems easy to me.<\/p>\n<p>[3]Although I clearly had &#8216;feelings&#8217; about attribution.  Interesting the things you find in yourself while writing.<\/p>\n<p>[4]I had originally had &#8216;Building&#8217; here instead of &#8216;Making&#8217;.  There&#8217;s a subtle difference, but &#8216;Making&#8217; seems to be term more often used, and feels like it speaks better to what we do.  (Even though there&#8217;s a *lot* of building. \ud83d\ude00 )<\/p>\n<p>[5]I also feel like a lot of &#8216;Art&#8217; presupposes one &#8216;Artist&#8217;, even if they have apprentices or other helpers.<\/p>\n<p>[6]While researching this post, I came across <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Pareidolia\/comments\/4fbdye\/omg_these_wires_are_sooo_good\/\" target=\"_blank\">this gem<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>[7]Ha!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Note: I am part of the Site 3 Fire Arts collective (S3FA), but I am speaking for myself, not them\/us. Some friends of mine went to FITC earlier today, &#8216;a three-day professional celebration of the best the world has to offer in design, web development, media and innovation in creative technologies.&#8216;[1] To me, reading the &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/2016\/04\/19\/the-line-between-art-and-making\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The Line Between Art and Making<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[17,7,27,36],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1488"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1488"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1488\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1491,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1488\/revisions\/1491"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1488"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1488"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nayrb.org\/~blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1488"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}